Summer Fling, Intro

Man it is good to want to write about DDo again, it just feels like a long time since i had a reason to write about it.

Couple of things first. I saw Jerry’s twitch stream yesterday where he ran down the swashbuckler. Looks good. I don’t know if it is good enough for my main bard to make changes to make it worth wild but i could see my lower level was going to be a tank but the Ac changes hit and she doesn’t get played no more bard might make some swaps and get a little more love again. IF you missed it you can check it out here.

This summer fling thing of Lessah’s is going to be a nice break for me i think. I am excited to make this happen. There are a lot of rules, which you can check out on DDoCockTailHour.com needless to say that there is one rule in there that happened after i decided to buy the acid green hair dye to more easily separate myself from all the other ladies in the party. Time to become a ninja passer of the hair dye or start blowing Turbine for replacement dye…. Remember better to look good then be effective. Also i am the jhealz so punishing Lessah for this rule is fairly simple… 🙂

Sam- Your blocked!
Les- No i can see you. You are waving you asshole!
Sam- Wasn’t me….

Walk of nakid shame for Lessah.

Here is my character for this group. SheSamius.

lvl 7 starting out

lvl 7 starting out 5/2 clr/rgr

Fairly hot if i do say so myself. I made her live with out a plan on my stream with input from the chat. Fairly pleased with how she turned out. But i am really excited to see how well the least dragonmark of finding will work out for our group. As we are starting out mostly nakid i am hoping this will give us a nice leg up. On Tuesday i popped into Cartamon’s to put it to the test and i was pulling +2 tmp weapons and lots of wands on normal.

Playing with stepping things up quest diff wise and it seems to make a difference in the quality of loots found. But i am still playing with it. I am real glad they added a shrine to the quest. I was mindlessly running to the bar before i realized that there was on. Oops.

Well i hope you can join us on Wednesdays noon central(we will have lots of streams covering our play), or at least i think that is the current start time. If not i will see about saving and or porting it to Youtube. That might be a real upside of Goggle buying Twitch. Easy saving to youtube channels?

Well see to all on Friday i think for another Gurobo Farm update. Until then.

<3s

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Credits?

Long time readers/people that have to sit and listen to while i do things, know that i have had more then a passing interest in a thrower build in DDo. But they have never panned out, mostly because of how the hps of mobs in DDo scale upwards as the levels add up.

Then when the enhancement+ destinies pass was making waves over in the Mornlands, Tobril and I talked about a possible thrower build a few times but nothing really came from it.

Then about 4-5 months back, Tobril says to me while i am bemoaning the state of Samius’ current “final” life to a Magic Missile build , that Distributed (Ilindith on the DDo Forums) has a throwing build that i might like. And while some things i didn’t really care for in the build, Dis proved to me that a throwing build is finally a good build in the current end game.

So it has been sitting in my brain for a few months then Dis finally joins the Defense Guild and we have time to talk about the build. I tweak some things. He tweaks some things. And we kinda have a core idea.

Then i post my leveling sheet and ask him for his input, which he does.  He doesn’t like Epic Destiny: Doubleshot feat by they way. He logic is you are almost constantly rocking the massive penalty from 10Kstars or manyshot so why bother trying to have a Doubleshot value if you are going to have that massive penalty most of the time. Sound logic, so i have an extra feat to find a home.

Anyway, he makes a comment about not giving him any love for giving me the idea of a throwing build. And i am like

Say What??!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And in like 3 mins i find my first throwing build post, (which looks a lot like yesterdays post but with a few less details) dated back in March, 2012 i think.

But then i started thinking did i ever really give him the big love for showing me that a throwing build is now finally an option? I know i have posted a lot of things in the last few weeks on thoughts that he has jumped started in my brain, but looking back there isn’t much credit given. And i tend to do that, so thanks Dis for the ideas.

Anyway, i want to to point out his throwing build. He posted the details yesterday i think for anyone to comment on, here: Shurikens-v2.

Also in thanks i want to share this:

Partly in Thanks, mostly because Uhura is hot.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Comment as you do,

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Samius the “Flinging Star” Gurobo

Level 28 Lawful Good Halfling Male
(12 Monk / 2 Rogue / 6 Ranger / 8 Epic)
Hit Points: 454
Spell Points: 165

BAB: 16/16/21/26/26
Fortitude: 20
Reflex: 28
Will: 16

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Abilities Base Stats Modified Stats
(36 Point) (Level 1) (Level 28)
Strength 6 12
Dexterity 19 32
Constitution 16 23
Intelligence 14 21
Wisdom 14 20
Charisma 9 15

Tomes Used

I have +4 in all stats and the following 5s.
+5 Tome of Constitution used at level 19
+5 Tome of Intelligence used at level 19

Skills start then ending at 28 (A level break down at the end.)
Balance 8 25
Concentration 5 39
Disable Device 6 41
Haggle 3 16
Heal 4 31
Hide 4 25
Jump 2 17
Listen 2 17
Move Silently 4 23
Open Lock 8 25  <- this could be wrong but at the moment i had to cut a rogue skill and this was it.
Search 6 41
Spot 6 36
Use Magic Device 3 38

Level 1 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Least Dragonmark of Healing

Level 2 (Ranger)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Undead

Level 3 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Completionist

Level 4 (Ranger)
Level 5 (Ranger)

Level 6 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Dodge
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Giant

Level 7 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Shuriken Expertise

Level 8 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Zen Archery

Level 9 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Point Blank Shot

Level 10 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Path) Path of Harmonious Balance: Fists of Light

Level 11 (Monk)
Level 12 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Deflect Arrows

Level 13 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Ten Thousand Stars

Level 14 (Monk)
Level 15 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Precise Shot

Level 16 (Monk)
Level 17 (Monk)

Level 18 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Quick Draw

Level 19 (Rogue)
Level 20 (Monk)

Level 21 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Epic: Combat Archery

Level 22 (Epic)
Level 23 (Epic)

Level 24 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Epic: Improved Martial Arts

Level 25 (Epic)

Level 26 (Epic)
Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Epic Spell Power: Positive

Level 27 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Epic: Blinding Speed

Level 28 (Epic)
Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Doubleshot

Level 1 (Rogue)
Skill: Balance (+4)
Skill: Concentration (+2)
Skill: Disable Device (+4)
Skill: Haggle (+4)
Skill: Heal (+2)
Skill: Jump (+4)
Skill: Open Lock (+4)
Skill: Search (+4)
Skill: Spot (+4)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+4)

Level 2 (Ranger)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Heal (+2)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)

Level 3 (Ranger)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Heal (+2)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)

Level 4 (Ranger)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Heal (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)

Level 5 (Ranger)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Heal (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)

Level 6 (Ranger)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Heal (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)

Level 7 (Monk)
Skill: Concentration (+2)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)

Level 8 (Monk)
Skill: Concentration (+3)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)

Level 9 (Ranger)
Skill: Concentration (+2)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Heal (+3)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)

Level 10 (Monk)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+2)

Level 11 (Monk)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+2)

Level 12 (Monk)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Heal (+0.5)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)

Level 13 (Monk)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Heal (+0.5)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)

Level 14 (Monk)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Heal (+0.5)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)

Level 15 (Monk)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Heal (+0.5)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)

Level 16 (Monk)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)

Level 17 (Monk)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)

Level 18 (Monk)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)

Level 19 (Rogue)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+10)

Level 20 (Monk)
Skill: Concentration (+2)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)

 

As always use the comments for thoughts.  I am tempted to go arty vs Rogue there are a few perks for each side. I am leaning towards more sneak attack dice and maybe a minor melee option with staffs for leveling and as needed.  Also i am conserned with the low open lock but i am not 100% comfortable with the trap locations in a lot of quests so seems like a worth wild trade off. I could also see going a point less in dex for another skill point a level. So something to thing about there. Now i just need to look at enhancement points.

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9 and 2, McGoogles

It is hard to get a feel about a build from reading about it online or tring to extrapolate from other similar builds. Hell for a while I would use the vet 2 status and try to “fake” a sudo lowbi version and hit a few quests as a trial run and even that is only so good.

Why? I am not sure. But I think it has something to do with the act of actually leveling a given alt…. It is something to ponder I guess.

Anyway, I want to talk just a little about McGoggles. The first few levels were like any other build. Use a stick or 2 little sword; pots as needed, try to use the vigor spell for most of the heals. It worked fairly well. Nothing amazing but I was able to solo more or less everything rocking an elite streak. He had 0 deaths until I tried to do the last Grey Moon quest at level 8, that last trap across the bridge just hits real hard and is super unforgiving. I missed jumped and took 3 hits for 80+ and my 20 vigor didn’t make a dent in that, but that has been his only death so far with little to no really worth wild loot other then maybe my one sword (BtA icy burst/shocking Burst/Pure good lvl 4 simmy) and the haste goggles from Chrono…

Those Chrono goggles btw are one of the best leveling items you can have, one day soon I will make a power 9 (or 10) of leveling gear items and those goggles are on the list for sure!

But until last night I really wasn’t having that much fun. He was super tough and between vigor and pots he is mostly unkillable, I had a few run away/tactical retreat moments but everyone does soloing. But at level 9 I had a feat question between metas, I went Maximize. I am waiting for +3 dex tomes to come back on line so both Manyshot and Imp Two weapon were not options (I was looking forward to Manyshot). Turns out to be a blessing in disguise as I toggled it on and set up a few spells to not use it and ran to the next quest.

With Emp Heals and Maximize that vigor now does 80 a tick and call lighting outside does 400ish as I learned by rocking Storm the Beaches. Overall he is starting to step up. I worry some that his total lack of gear and my plan to not have much in the way of leveling gear might be an issue but hey he is a second life, if I need to back down to a hard streak for soloing should be fine, right?

Some Follow Up Anwers

I posted a projected build for myself this morning of a 18/2 wiz/rog mostlikely as a Pale Master. This spawned a few comments and questions. So let me see if I can hash a few of them out for you all.

The most common two are: Why is Heighten so late (lvl 17)? Why no Spell Pen feats? Lets look at the Heighten question first.

At level 17 when I will take Heighten that will be my 15th wizard level. Which means before then 7th level was my max level spell any way. Aka Finger of Death is as good as it can get and Circle of Death is only 1 behind it. Making my DCs on removal spells almost or just as good as someone that took Heighten sooner.

Spell Pen: You have to know from reading my stuff for a while to know that I have the max number (for past life gains+) of Wizard lives done already. And as a completionest I have already done a FvS life, so I am +7 over a first lifer already. So I am sure that will get me to 20 with just a few enchantments and an item. If I get to epics and have trouble I can swap out the sorc past life and side in the spell pen feat taking the rest post 20. But I don’t think they will be needed. Tobril was telling me just the other day how a 2nd lifer was getting no fail Spell Pen on eE quests with all the feats and a few twists. I am hoping the extra 5 spell pen I have from past lives will do the work of all those feats and some of the epic twists. If not I can do a few mow FvS lives.

Also real fast something I might have said or should have said is this build is mostly to level with. I don’t know if I will stay 18/2 post level 20 or not. But this is a fairly well rounded build for the first 20 levels.

Lets see some other comments….

On Barb Past life: The sooner you take the Barb past life feat the stronger it is in the over all life of a build. 20 hps and a rage is very strong at level 3. Just looking at the planer level 3 I would have around 60 hp with out items, taking the feat is a third more. Be at -11 to -19 a few times and tell me how you feel about having 20 more hp? Barb past live vs toughness: 20 hp now vs 3+1 per level until level 17 the past life is just plan better and having the clickly is an often over looked perk. Be one point short of pulling a lever and know that if you had this you would have gotten it done.

No Extend?: With the changes to extend I don’t take it on new casters. I just don’t. Why do I need it? Haste and Rage were talked about in one comment, But I offen don’t cast them on my casters, unless I am killing mobs via melee or something.

Empower: This is my spell booster for the low levels. Sometimes I just want to cast a spell once and be done. This is how I help make this happen. Its costs are low enough that paying for it is affordable at low levels, I used to use Max Spell but those lifes often took longer to level up due to having to melee more then I liked.

Sorc past life: I am only taking it for prereqs for like Wrath form and if I go Am to use instead of Mental toughness. If it turns out I can’t use it as a Mental Toughness sub (think it can) I will be taking Mental toughness instead.

The last big comment I see again from Malinza2 (lots of good comments btw) is on why not 2 monk over 2 rog. This is a matter of preference. For starters I have never liked how a 2 monk splash looks on casters. You either make life hard on yourself or run a round uncentered all the time. In my eyes two feats are not as good as Rog skills and a d6 the sneak attack for stunned or held mobs, lest not forget alignment restrictions that monks have to follow meaning you can’t switch to N to take less damage at places and take neg levels to use some items. Also for me it comes down to gear. I have lots of gear that plays well for a caster that plays well with rog levels that doesn’t play nice with monk levels. I mean if I am doing a melee build, monk is easy to fit in I have lots of cool wraps and a fair amount of robes, but as a caster I am just better of using a host of other gear.

Would I say run out and build this for yourself? Not really. This is more of a build for me. But I want to share my thoughts and process in the event that it helps others.

Tomorrow that talk on AM vs PM.

Side Project, Darth Samius is ON!

Something I have been thinking about for a long time is how to make an anti Samius for my Darth Samius build as well as something I can do in my spare time while waiting for Tobril’s Real life to settle so we can xp things together for a spell.

And then yesterday I saw Ambitious’ blog post How to Ungimp Yourself, watching his video I became inspired to make a full on huge hitter dps build. I have a few guys that hit simi hard. But normally I am more about consistently then the one big swing, unless I am on a caster then that is a different story. So I don’t really have a huge hitter on that level.

So lets change that. To do so I will need your help. With build ideas and tweaks to the one I come up with.

The base, I have an level 13 – xp for 14 first life barb that I will cap out in my spare time while Tobril’s work keeps him from our planed TR time. I swear things were easier with Fopo, he didn’t have a real life that got in the way of my game time 3-4 days a week. Even though he is married with two kids. Hope his ddo break is almost over.

A Barb past life will be a boon to any alt and a name change will set him right up.

Other then that I have nothing set in stone. No build ideas or a real list of must haves although after playing with the barb as is; not WF might make the list. I have little to no gear yet for this guy. But I will flag for shroud and gather a few sets of shards for GS crafting post TR. Unless you guys shoot me an item that I could use this go around then I will get what mileage out of it that I can.

Anyway it is a short one. Seen in your heavy hitter builds and let me see if I can get those huge numbers.

Early thoughts on the Catholic Priest

Over the last few days I have really been thinking about how I will be leveling up next life and I think I have a loose out line that I am calling the Catholic Priest model.

Why am I calling it that? Because it is a holy man with the bad touch. ☺

Okay after doing some reading I found in the case of a level tie how the game decides to break ties. And if you don’t know it is like this take all the original classes and put them in alphabetical order then add the new classes in the order they were added. The wiki has a list on the Past_Life_Feats page under the heading Dominant Class. But if you can remember in alphabetical order then new you will be good most of the time. So Monk/Pally tie would go to the Pally as it is an OG class. Barb/Bard would go to the Barb as it would come first in alphabetical order.

So a 9/9 monk/pally split would work out for my past life being a pally. And that is good news, as that leaves me with 2 extra levels to play with.

I am debating on splashing for trap/full umd or feats. I was going to do arty levels because I really like how their spells even at low levels. And then I could go Helf and the Rogue Dilly for more sneak attack damage then I could with two rogue levels.

And come one what holy man doesn’t want to smite evil into the spleen of evildoers.

But I have to say that fighter is also a good option over Arty. Sure you loose trap skills and full umd but gain 2 feats a haste attack boost and +1 str. So I will need to look at that option later on.

So lets look at the meat of the build, stats. 14 15 16 12 12 12. With tomes stat requirements, ie GTWF, are handled when we can take them. If we first level arty that is 20 skill points enough to start all of our important skills and for monk levels that is 5 so con/search/disable and then we can use the second arty level around level 10 or 11 to re-max umd and any other skills we left behind. Once int tomes start to roll in extra points can roll over into Umd or Balance as needed. I also tend to skip a level or two of maxing trap skills to get balance to 10 I find that 10 is a good number for me in balance.

I just looked at the time and my to do list for the day and I better run. More on this Monday, either more thoughts or maybe a probber layout or even how I started to build the thing. You know when I will start a TR. ☺